How to Talk about Fifty Shades of Grey

** Since the time Fifty Shades of Grey was published, Dannah Gresh and Dr. Julie Flattery wrote a book called Pulling Back the Shades which explains in detail the harmful effects of erotica. Read my review here.

A blogger friend wrote a much needed post last week entitled Fifty Shades of Grey: the Phenon, the Invasion, and the Preparation. My post today comes as a response to her post.

Before I even begin I will say that I have not read this book, and this is not a book I would ever read. Mainly because it is a form of pornography, but also because I’ve never been much into pop culture – even as a teenager. I haven’t read the Twilight series, and I don’t know about the Hunger Games. And it’s not a Christian thing either. Pop culture’s just not something I’ve ever been into.  Weird, right? I’m just not cool like that.

But I have heard here and there about this new book sweeping through the minds of women across the country. Or should I say burying in the minds of women across the country? Because that is what is actually happening.

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I first heard it mentioned on T.V. Then I saw some people talking about it on Facebook kind of in disguise. But I knew what book they were referring to. So when I read Karen’s post I thought this might be something I need to think more about.

I know that some of my friends struggle with their realm of influence because they are Christians who do not know many unbelievers, but that is not my situation. My closest friends are also my sisters in Christ, but there are many people in my world who do not know Jesus. And even then people are at all different stages of maturity in their faith.

I can easily imagine this book coming up in a conversation at the hair salon or at lunch with friends or with the young single women I lead and mentor.

I’m ashamed to say that many times when these subjects come up, subjects that I know I am called to speak truth and go against the grain of what is in style, I cower. I get scared with what they’ll think of me or how I’ll come across.

Other times I am simply unprepared.

So today I am thinking of a game plan of what I can say when this book comes up in conversation.

I think that sometimes Jesus’s name needs to be used in a conversation like this depending on your relationship with the other person and how the Holy Spirit is prompting you. But from my experience winning the heart on a loving, personal level first by building a relationship is more effective. I remind myself often that it is impossible for people without the Holy Spirit to understand spiritual matters. Otherwise I find myself beating my head against the wall trying to get them to see my point.

“The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.” 1 Corinthians 2:14

So how can I respond in a conversation about Fifty Shades of Grey in a loving, nonjudgmental way, while also speaking truthfully out of conviction from the Holy Spirit and honoring God through my words? 

Here’s how I’ll talk about Fifty Shades of Grey.

  • Admit that I have not read the book and do not plan on ever reading the book.
  • Explain what I know about the book from reading blog posts, seeing commentary on T.V., or listening to what others have said about it in other conversations.
  • It is in our minds where our decisions and choices begin, so it seems like harmless fiction, but then we find ourselves thinking about what we’ve read and it turns to lust.
  • Books (and anything else for that matter) that takes sex out of the context which it was purposed for – marital oneness and love – diminishes the magnitude in which we can experience it at its fullest.
  • This books promotes violence and dominance which is abuse and a form of slavery whether it is consensual or not.
  • It continues people’s misunderstanding with Biblical submission.
  • It sets women, young and old, up for unhealthy, destructive relationships, and possibly mental illness, by telling them that their worth is in the sensual acts they can perform with a man, at his mercy, and that it is their job to make sure the man is taken care of, satisfied, and in the end “helped”.
  • This cycle of abuse and then “love” leads women to believe that a similar cycle in their own life is the answer to winning the man or keeping the man or changing the man.
  • Like all sexual sin, the deceit is subtle. Sometimes it’s not until years later, when you’re married, that you see the effects of sexual sin whether it be outward adultery (physical or mental) or inward distrust and insecurity.
  • Women are worth more than this. Women are full of value and beauty, a prize to be cherished. This book does not cherish women.
  • Personally, I am worth far more than the way Anastasia is treated by a man. There is no way that a man would ever treat me this way, and I don’t want any iota of doubt of my worth entering into my mind by reading a book such as this.

My heart is so heavy and saddened by the lies we women continue to believe. The bondage the enemy continues to try to hold us in. We are princesses and queens with worth far greater than rubies or any other earthly treasure. And yet we continue to fall into the trap of believing otherwise and being treated as otherwise.

Jesus help us.

Also read:

 How We Were “Marketed” Into Reading Pornography

A Black and White Choice NOT to Read Fifty Shades of Grey

Fifty Shades of Grey: the Phenon, the Invasion, and the Preparation

I’m Not Reading Fifty Shades of Grey

How would you respond in a conversation about this book? I would love to hear your ideas!

Comments

19 responses to “How to Talk about Fifty Shades of Grey”

  1. Christy Avatar

    Brenda, what good points for how to respond to the books!  Thanks for giving loving and scripture-based ideas!
     

    1. Brenda Avatar

      Thank you, Christy! I enjoyed your post too! I am so happy we’re standing up against this! 

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  3. Karen Yates Avatar

    Brenda, GREAT thoughts and responses we can give to people who might not be Christians or subscribe to a Biblical worldview.  THANK YOU.  One of the things that has come up with Christian commenters on my post is that the book isn’t ‘that bad’ and that there are some redemptive elements to the story.  I understand that this might be the case, but I don’t think it is enough to justify dismissing or glossing over the negatives.  I think we have to be very careful when it comes to guarding our hearts and minds, and we have to be willing to be courageous and take a stand.  I don’t want to fudge my way through pages of porn, implicit sexual encounters, and a little S & M to get to redemption.  Women deserve to be treated right on the OUTSET of a relationship, to be respected and cherished from the beginning.  WELL DONE!   

    1. Brenda Avatar

      Karen, thank you for your insight and sharing what others are saying. I really don’t know tons about it, so it helps me to know how people are defending it. You are so right! The twist comes subtly, and there is always consequence for sin – always. 

  4. Redeemed Avatar
    Redeemed

    Your points are well made and well received. I’m honestly as worried about the publicity this book gets in the Christian community as it does in the secular. As a woman who did fall prey to this type of lifestyle and subverting belief system enough to welcome two tattoos that marked me as a slave girl and as a possession, it burdens my heart for the women who are presently lost in or susceptible to believing lies that make appealing the idea of subjugation equating to love/acceptance/affection. It isn’t that these lies are more destructive than any of the other lies that we’re apt to believe about ourselves above the truth that God reveals to us about who we truly are – but this issue pulls upon scarred over wounds of a 30 year lifespan of seeking love, acceptance and affection from source after failing source until I believed that submitting myself in this manner would be Utopia – and I’m not exaggerating this point.

    Once upon a time, I served in leadership positions within the alternative lifestyle community, and was the facilitator of a special interest group designed specifically for women who went far deeper than to classify themselves as “merely” submissive – we were slaves by choice, we were considered the elite in feminine subservience. And we believed it and wore that moniker with pride. So much pride that I personally spent a great deal of time reasoning and contending the sacredness of that position and that type of relationship in many different media sources – and if someone still in that lifestyle were to ever read your post they would do the same. And they would as well likely tell you that I simply must have had a bad experience, or the wrong relationship/partner, or become disgruntled or disillusioned somehow – that I can’t speak for those who truly know and live what they believe to be the truth. I remember believing it that deeply and devotedly.

    I say all of this to say that I know that this book is dangerous. It is a toxic product disguised in a tempting package – as is all sin.  It’s just another source to delude, and to lull. Satan knows that if sin came to us in the form of a bucket of puss we wouldn’t be tempted to partake – and for many this book wouldn’t begin to be tempting because it can clearly be seen for what it is, but for others it is craftily disguised. To see women who claim to be Christian at the same time claim that this book isn’t harmful or sinful has brought home to me once again how evil our enemy is, how conniving and constant his pursuit is, and how perceptive his accuracy is at finding the slightest openings in us to create strongholds for us in hopes to separate us from God.

    1. Brenda Avatar

      Dear Redeemed, Wow! What an amazing testimony of God’s love and grace you have. Thank you so much for having the courage to speak truthfully. Your words are going to help so many women. It is easy for me to sit and type “Don’t read it”, but it is a whole different thing for someone who’s been there to speak truth into it. I cannot thank you enough.

      May I feature your comment in a follow-up post next week? You may email me at brenda@brendarodgers.com to respond if you wish. I would just love to make your testimony front and center (anonymously) of course. I pray for your continued healing and that God uses your story and testimony for mighty things for His kingdom. God bless you! 

    2. Ashley@ Stay-At-Home Daughter Avatar

      Wow.  Thank you for that incredible testimony.  You certainly encouraged my heart today.  I would LOVE to hear more of your story and how the Lord saved you!  

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  6. TereasaM Avatar
    TereasaM

    I really appreciate this post.  I saw a woman reading it at our sons’ baseball game. I wondered about saying something, but decided the time wasn’t right.  My first concern was that she was reading at her son’s game.  Then I saw the title and I understood the draw.  I feel that your post has better prepared me for the future.  (Visiting from Write It, Girl!)

    1. Brenda Avatar

      Don’t feel bad about not saying anything. I don’t think that every time is the right time, personally. There have been many times that I have not said something. It is hard. But I have been convicted lately, not just with this but with other things too, to not say something. Personally, I borderline on not being myself b/c I’m afraid of what others will think of me. I think it takes practice and definitely the Holy Spirit!!

  7. Laurie Avatar

    LOVE your game plan!

    It is hard to come up with replies when asked about things of this nature sometimes. I don’t want to offend, but I also want to state my position. 

    And, Redeemed, WOW! What a testimony you now have. I hope you allow Brenda to use your story next week. Just think of those you could impact. 

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  9. Jody Avatar

    I have been amazed by the growing number of”christian” wives who have had affairs and left not only husbands but also their children. Most have been led astray through delusions of a life they deserve, want, and think they can get simply by removing themselves from their present circumstances. Sin is never the answer to combating sin or the effects of it’s presence in our lives. Thank you so much for addressing this topic. I had never heard of the book until my husband came home and told me about close friends and “christian” wives we know personally who had FB about how great it was, how it helped their marriage….. WOW!!!

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  11. sonyamacdesigns Avatar

    WOW, I also read Karen’s post and although I’m a single MOM … my head has been covered as well … I’ve yet to read nor do I want to read, any of the books you mention above. But, knowing OUR ALL knowing Father … I am confident HE has prepared us for what is to come. I am also confident that somehow HE will flip this evil for the good … cause that just what HE does.

    1. Brenda @TripleBraided Avatar

      You are so right! It’s hard to understand, and really we can’t with our human minds, but He does use evil for good! Thank you for sharing!

  12. BORING WASTE OF TIME Avatar
    BORING WASTE OF TIME

    TRASH, BUT FOR MORE REASONS THAN YOU MENTION: I am a recently-born-again Christian woman in my early 40’s, divorced after ending an abusive marriage. I read these books. At the time, I never thought of them as being “wrong” or “sinful” other than the fact that the couple engaged in the sex were not married to each other. Now I just think I wasted time on something that didn’t enhance my spiritual life. I’ll have to read more on the subject.

    The biggest problem with the books, in my opinion, is that they are VERY POORLY WRITTEN. Two phrases stand out in my mind even now, months after having read them. “Clambered” seems to be the author’s favorite verb. I wish I had kept a tally sheet of how often that word was used – it got to the point that I cringed every time. The other is “beneath my lashes” – as in “I looked at him from beneath my lashes,” etc. This might be overlooked the first or second time, but the author uses it far too often until I found myself wondering who in the world looked at someone any other way? (Who doesn’t have eyelashes above their eyes?) Very strange choice of words.

    As for the sex scenes, sometime over the course of reading I stopped reading those passages and skimmed ahead — they bored me. I was interested in the story line outside of the “red room” etc. and I guess I was amused at the juvenile writing style. I guess it’s like seeing a car crash on the side of the road when you can’t help but look, or when you have a sore in your mouth and you can’t keep your tongue away from it.

    In the end, however, I did learn something from the experience. I learned that I need to judge more carefully how I spend my leisure time and ask myself whether it draws me closer to God, explores my growing relationship with Him, or whether I would want to engage in the movie/book/etc with God sitting on the sofa beside me.

    1. Brenda @TripleBraided Avatar

      Thank you so much for your comments and insight! I have not read it, but it’s good to hear that it was poorly written on top of being completely inappropriate! I agree – I need to evaluate how I spend my time, too. I can easily get sucked into T.V. shows that are more socially acceptable, but do not grow me closer to God. Thank you again for sharing!

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